A Finks Cousin’s Genome Analysis

The results are in for my grandfather’s Finks cousin (his cousin through his mother’s family) and I took a few minutes to look at the tools in FTDNA for general analysis. My Origins is the tool FTDNA has for this. It’s the broad overview of your genome with some hints on geographic location. Since this is my first FTDNA kit, I don’t have a good feel for comparing this tool to the results from 23 and me’s ancestry tools, other than that the results for my grandfather’s cousin seem pretty similar to my dad’s (except maybe a bit more middle-eastern or central asian than I would expect).

Here is a pic:

D Walsh FTDNA My Origins

A nice map with some highlighted colorful areas. Very similar to the maps I’ve made in the past. My grandfather’s cousin has a higher portion of Scandinavian DNA than my dad, but she has some more recent scandinavian ancestry on her father’s side (her mother is the Finks). Western and Central Europe is to be expected I think as well as British Isles which she would get from both sides of her family. I’m uncertain on middle eastern or central asian and how they might tie in.

For comparison to my dad’s results, I ran her through DIY Dodecad and the Oracle too. The Final admixture proportions are pretty similar to my dad.

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FINAL ADMIXTURE PROPORTIONS:
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10.82%  East_European
50.57%  West_European
26.43%  Mediterranean
0.00%  Neo_African
8.58%  West_Asian
1.36%  South_Asian
0.32%  Northeast_Asian
0.09%  Southeast_Asian    50
0.12%  East_African
1.70%  Southwest_Asian
0.02%  Northwest_African
0.00%  Palaeo_African

The Oracle results are also pretty similar with a little shuffling at the top. CEU (explained as white people from Utah) still on top, her Orcadian..etc are scoring a bit differently, but overall things seem to be in about the same order. Her family, taken as a whole has more immigration more recently from Europe, but I imagine the proportions are similar to adding up all my dad’s more distant immigrant relatives, not to mention that they share one full set of my father’s great grandparents. I am not too surprised that they are very similar people genetically.

Dodecad oracle for v3 results:

[,1]               [,2]
[1,] “CEU”              “3.901”
[2,] “N._European”      “5.2828”
[3,] “Argyll_1KG”       “6.1403”
[4,] “Orcadian”         “6.2461”
[5,] “Orkney_1KG”       “6.6245”
[6,] “German_D”         “8.1126”
[7,] “French”           “10.4414”
[8,] “French_D”         “10.6907”
[9,] “Mixed_Germanic_D” “11.8097”
[10,] “Dutch_D”          “12.9789”

One final analysis for admixture. I looked at the world results to see if there were small traces of Native DNA. I recently posted about the possibilities that our family story is true and that Telitha Hibbard is not really a Hibbard at all, but half native. This cousin would share Telitha Hibbard’s DNA as Telitha was her great grandmother.

Here were the Global 13 results:

0.08%  Siberian
0.32%  Amerindian
0.01%  West_African
0.00%  Palaeo_African
2.17%  Southwest_Asian
0.23%  East_Asian
33.48%  Mediterranean
0.06%  Australasian
0.11%  Arctic
10.01%  West_Asian
51.52%  North_European
1.88%  South_Asian
0.13%  East_African

I don’t really know how to read the southwest asian except to say that it might relate to the Central Asian segments FTDNA was picking up on. The Amerindian levels seem fairly low and of course FTDNA did not pick up any of that. I know sometimes DNA from Asia is a stand in for Native DNA, but I’m not sure how that plays out.

In Comparing the coverage of my grandfather’s cousin to my dad’s DNA, I had to rely on Gedmatch.com. Because my tests are from two different companies, a third comparison company is required. Similar to how I checked my dad’s Seelye relatives. I was able to use Kitty Munson Cooper’s segment mapper to make a great graphical representation of the Gedmatch.com comparison data:

Overall, my grandfather’s Finks cousin here covers less ground for my dad than my grandmother’s Seelye cousin did. 396cM compared to 446cM on the Seelye side. Interestingly for me though the sharing is reversed when my dad hands down these matches to me. I share 259cM with our Finks cousin and only 162cM with the Seelye cousin.


 

Next:

https://wanderingtrees.com/2014/12/elmer-and-elmore-autosomal-results-and-more-waiting

 

Previously:

https://wanderingtrees.com/2014/07/the-more-i-see-the-less-i-know

 

6 Comments

  1. Hi Mike, My name is Fran (Finks) Pontius. I believe my fifth great grandfather was John Finks (1773-1871) born in Culpeper Co., VA. His son Robert Sanford Finks (1816-1915), also born in Culpeper Co, is my ancestral line. I’ve found their names in the book “The History of Tazewell County” where the other parts of my family have lived since the 1700’s. I’m very curious if Your Robert Sanford Finks is a namesake of my older relative. John married Wineford (Winifred?) McQueen of Culpeper Co. Son Robert married Lucy Ann McQueen in Culpeper in 1846. I believe he was the first to move to IL shortly after marriage.

    • Hi Fran, my Robert Sanford Finks born 1879 in Tazewell is the nephew of your Robert Sanford Finks, through his brother William Jackson Finks. Robert is my 2nd great grandfather. His daughter Orvetta Finks is my great grandmother. John Finks (married to Winifred) is my 4th great grandfather. It’s good to meet you.

    • Not that I’m aware of. My Finks are Palatine Germans who end up in the Germanna colony in Virginia in the early 1700s. I’m not sure about their life prior to that in Germany. We have no Jewish family tradition. Autosomal DNA for my family and my grandfather’s Finks cousin didn’t show any Ashkenazi. That doesn’t mean there is no Jewish heritage, but it would be old enough that it doesn’t appear in our DNA and far enough back that I do not have any record of it.

      • I’m related to you. I haven’t started my ancestry yet, but my ancestors were in Waco, and prior to that they were the Palentine German immigrants. The ancestry search I did, shows he married a Mohawk woman. I’ve never done the DNA testing. But yeah, my ancestors were in was in the Botts , and I saw one of your posts a while back with the word Botts.

      • I’ve also got Fielding in my ancestry, and Campbell. Btw, in Waco Tx, there is a Hebrew cemetery for Jews only, and an unknown Finks was buried there in 1900. My great grandfather, Finks, lived in Waco TX at the time. I can tell you about my discovery of that gravesite sometime. But anyway, I’ve got the Fielding and Campbell ancestry too

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